SOAC

State of
Agentic Coding

with Armin Ronacher and Ben Vinegar

A field report from the fast-moving edge of AI-assisted software development—what works, what doesn’t, and what might matter next.

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Mario Zechner, Armin Ronacher and Ben Vinegar recording episode 8 in Vienna

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Fable, RL, loops, and the cost of compute

Recorded in Vienna with Mario Zechner. A conversation about whether models or harnesses deserve the credit, open weights, tool-call regressions, dark factories, and handling AI FOMO.

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New episodes monthly-ish.

  1. 008Fable, RL, loops, and the cost of computeWith Mario Zechner · Vienna 01:20:53
  2. 007The one-year anniversaryTokens, slop forks & open weights 01:34:31
  3. 006The beginning of the end of subsidiesSecurity, token spend & data moats 01:38:22
  4. 005Time to slow down?Quality, security & token substance abuse 01:38:48
  5. 004Are you going exponential?New models, vibe projects & slop forks 40:33
  6. 003Have we become AI-pilled?Personal agents, OpenClaw & gates 59:01
  7. 002The new models are good, actuallyPricing, context handoffs & meta-programming 51:44
  8. 001The December editionWhere the monthly conversation began 49:05

About the show

AI talk without
the psychosis

State of Agentic Coding is a recurring conversation about how coding agents are changing the practice—and economics—of making software. No demos. No breathless launch recaps. Just a critical look at what changed since last month.

Armin Ronacher

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Armin Ronacher

Creator of Flask, Jinja, Werkzeug, Click, and Rye, Armin has spent two decades shaping how developers build for the web. A prolific open-source author and writer on software design and AI-assisted development, he is now founder of Earendil.

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